Taken directly from the #TriumphOOC room last night:
<LordSaanjun> Hey, in case a GM is listening who hasn't already heard me bitch? I feel like the IM thing tonight was a bad call.
<LordSaanjun> I disagree with your interpretation of the IM rules, straight up, and I feel like you came down too hard on me.
<LordSaanjun> I don't want to make a big stink over this, but Julian said I should air the grievance in the open, so I am doing such.
<LordSaanjun> Just so people know.
<LordSaanjun> I don't even really want to talk a lot more about it tonight because I'll probably say something fucking retarded.
<LordSaanjun> So you guys can discuss that amongst yourselves.
I think saying something publicly was "fucking retarded" to use your words, but I'm one of the GMs who should feel so ashamed for disagreeing with your
perfect intrepetation of the IM rules, so what could I possibly know?
How did we come down too hard on you? By telling you no? I'm sorry if your precious ego can't handle being told you can't do one little IM stunt
, but for you act like this about it is beyond ridiculous. I know how old you are and I just can't believe someone who graduated college would have this big of an entitlement complex. No, you don't get a free pass because you have some dev cred. You're not a GM of Triumph and, to be blunt, your handling of GP was pretty damned appalling, so really? I don't think you have any room to speak on how the GM team should handle anything.
You don't want to make a big stink over this, yet you posted it in the public
room for players and GMs to see it? And I'm so glad you gave us permission to discuss it amongst ourselves. I mean, until you said something, I didn't realize I was an adult capable of thinking about this complex issue all by myself. Since you did so, allow me
to make a big stink over this.
You wanted to use an IM version of Pep Up to help Julian's AC. To spare some confusion, I'll post what Pep Up is here:
Pep Up (1 MP)
The caster transfers their life force into the target in the form of a glorious golden beam. Pep Up restores a single target to its maximum HP value; after the effects of Pep Up have been resolved, the Caster is automatically reduced to 0 HP, regardless of their current HP score.
The hang up, as I understood it was that very last line there: "..the Caster is automatically reduced to 0 HP, regardless of their current HP score
." You wanted to do a "part-way" Pep Up so that your character wouldn't wind up KO'ed. Julian said no, but to be sure he asked the other GMs present, and we all said no as well because, quite frankly, we don't see any way you can do a partial Pep Up. The spell itself only costs one magic point to start with, and there's not a whole lot of wiggle room when the spell lays it out on the line that regardless of your HP, you are reduced zero
hit points when the casting is done. It'd be different if we were talking about, say, White Wind as that spell doesn't reduce your hit points when it's over.
Now, some people when being told no either accept that they can't do what they desired and drop it, or
they ask "What can I do instead that would acheive the same goal?" You, however, decided to go off on us and pretty much tell us we're abunch of morons who don't understand how Intuitive Magic actually works. You want to know what you could have done differently? Here, I asked NinjaWeazel (arbitrator of Triumph, which means he has the final say in everything), to explain why he felt we were in the right to tell you no and
what else you could have done instead (please overlook the typos as this was late at night and over IRC):
[01:05:18] <JadeNSC> can I ask you to expand on why you mentioned White Wind and why Saan shouldn't have intuitive healing magic?
[01:08:51] <Wystan> Sure. Intuitive Magic needs certain types of spells to give it the proper keyword. I.E you need to know Fire before you can IM lighting a candle. White WInd I mentioned specifically because its the one ABLU spell that is Type: Recovery I can think of that doesn't also involve screwing yourself over, i.e Pep Up, or draining damage, i.e. Red Feast or whatever its called now.
[01:09:14] <JadeNSC> Still Red Feast.
[01:09:20] <JadeNSC> But thanks. ^_^;
[01:09:51] <Wystan> If he had been like 'hey can I Pep Up the dragon and pass out momentarily insteadof KOing myself since there is no real HP damage' that would have been one thing.
[01:09:55] <Wystan> but it was 'hay can I Pep Up except not actually'
[01:10:07] <Wystan> and people were in the right to tell him no
[01:11:25] <Wystan> or even if he had Red Feasted like 'hey I would like to wound-transfer that booboo from the dragon to me' that wouls also have been A-OK.
My god. He makes it sound so simple. And yes, I got his permission to quote him.
You know, this wouldn't be so bad if we didn't take flak from several players all the damn time
. This right here is just one
example from one
player. And all we did was tell him no, but everytime we do this people act like we've committed some sort of horrific crime and are holding their precious characters back. The only reason I'm calling Saanjun out by name right now is because he made it public himself and he did it at a time when most of the GMs were already in bed or didn't want to talk on the matter. In short, he said something when we weren't able to explain our side of the story to the other players, thereby making himself out to be some sort of victim. Yeah, I don't play that way.
Next time you think we GMs are having all kinds of fun and that we're being mean to you specifically? I'm going to link to this and several other examples of when we are outright disrespected. Please people, it's only a game. Get over yourselves and move on.